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spegelius

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Re: Crap hack. Bulk filament
« Reply #120 on: April 17, 2016, 01:21:28 pm »
Ok seems that i got most of the problems sorted out with the hot end. There does seem to be some fluctuation about the temperature depending how much filament is fed through it and Cube's motherboard can't adjust fast enough or something... well so far upping the temperature seems to be enough to fix that.
However, i had a bigger problem with filament jams inside the nozzle. As i removed to inner tube, i reasoned that the upper part of the tube was getting too hot and filament was getting too hot too early and without the tube, would melt just enough to cause a blockage. Well i went and attached a heatsink to the middle part of the nozzle and adjusted the cooling fan a bit. Results: no filament jams so far.

Printed this with bamboofill (6 hrs with current Slic3r settings):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/l0v1tkihihojpmd/2016-04-17%2012.20.20.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6ex24aa5uez62v1/2016-04-17%2012.20.30.jpg?dl=0
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Re: Crap hack. Bulk filament
« Reply #121 on: May 11, 2016, 11:33:34 am »
While researching the Cube 3D printer, I became aware that 3D systems prevent users from using generic PLA filament by inserting a chip into their cartridges which allows the printer's internal computer to roughly gauge how much filament is left in the cartridge (preventing you from starting a print which there's not enough filament to print) . This hack however : http://hackaday.com/2013/04/26/cube-3d-printer-hack-lets-you-use-bulk-filament/ is "supposed" to be the answer.   In actual fact, all it does is waste time and filament, with zero net benefit... Here's why :

A little background.
The cube printer has an inbuilt chip in every single filament cartridge.  It, like many 2D printers provides feedback to the printer's interal computer to allow it know how much "ink" (filament in this case) is left in the cartridge.  It also prevents the user from using an empty cartridge, or reloading the cartridge with more filament once it becomes empty.  3D systems would like you to purchase more expensive filament instead of reloading your old cartridge. They even scare the user by issuing statements to the effect of "only use cube filament in your printer, using 3rd party filament may damage your printer and void your warranty".   

The hackaday article, provides reference to a seemingly useful part which you can print which allows the user to trick the system into using 3rd party filament, all one had to do is accept the Cube printers warning that it is running out of filament, and apparent problem solved.  Wrong.  Problem is, that even if you do use 3rd party filament with this technique, the printer will continue to reduce the "available filament" variable in the filament cartridge's chip.  When this figure reaches zero, the printer will prevent you from using even your third party filament as you are no longer given a warning of which you can accept or deny... You're simply prevented from printing all together. 

The solution. 
I argued with myself as to whether to make this public, as I'm pretty sure 3D systems will do an applesque fix for this in future firmware, but realized I have copys of firmware on my machine which I will make available should 3D systems patch their firmware to prevent this from working. 

Firstly, forget about printing the part in the hackaday article.  It's a waste of filament and electricity.  (Ill explain why in future articles).  Find and print a suitable spool holder for your generic PLA filament.  Make sure you continue to use the cube tube with your new spool holder though as this is actually a novel and useful idea which prevents your filament from malforming before it enters the Cube's extruder.

 To make things simpler, I keep the instructions in note form.  This also assumes you've figured out how to load generic filament into the extruder.

1) make sure you insert a cartridge which contains available filament into the cartridge slot.  This is to trick the printer into allowing you to select a file to print. 
2) start the print as normal.  If there "dummy" cartridge you used was nearly empty, you may be warned about insufficient remaining filament.  If so confirm your intention to proceed by selecting the "tick" icon. 
3) the cube will begin to old the file and heat the extruder.  At ANY TIME during this process, select the "stop" button.
4) you will be asked to confirm if you want to abort the print... DON'T select anything.
5) Now remove the "dummy" cartridge from the printer.
6) the cube printer will continue print the object despite the cartridge being removed and importantly, won't reduce the available filament variable on your dummy cartridge's chip while it is printing.  If you try and do this without pressing the stop button, the sneaky software will force you to replace the cartridge within 30 seconds before aborting the print.

A little messy, but this "hack" actually will allow you to print using bulk filament and provide you with a real net benefit ; cheaper printing. 

Any questions, feel free to ask.
Dan


Hi Dan,

I have a Cube x Duo.  Do you know if this process works for this 3d printer?  I did follow your steps but I don't have a STOP button only Cancel. I hit cancel asked me if I wanted to and disregarded,  proceeded to take out the dummy cartridge it did continue  for a few moments then stated the cartridge was removed and to replace. I did nothing but the print stopped. The time was still elapsing as if it were printing. Any thoughts? 

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Re: Crap hack. Bulk filament
« Reply #122 on: May 20, 2016, 02:25:41 pm »
Dan hasn't been active for a while, but what i understand about the hack, it relies on a 'bug' in Cube 1 and 2 firmware. Apparently that bug has been fixed on later Cube 1 firmwares at least, so i'm not upgrading. Judging from what you describe about the Duo's behaviour, this bug is not present...

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Re: Crap hack. Bulk filament
« Reply #123 on: July 18, 2016, 06:47:08 pm »
hi i tested this and works good but i have one question that is make write this cube use 1,62mm and i use 1,75 filament but sometimes when is printing something my cube makes a noise like "tek tek tek"and no filament i lost some pieces how i resolve this ? sorry for my english  ??? ??? ???

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Re: Crap hack. Bulk filament
« Reply #124 on: November 18, 2016, 01:19:48 am »
Available unblockers and chip reseter for CubeX, CubePro and Cube .... www.cube3dfree.com

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Re: Crap hack. Bulk filament
« Reply #125 on: December 12, 2016, 02:07:09 pm »
Now available chip reseter for CubePro, no connections to printer required ... CUBE3DFREE

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Chip reseter for CubePro and CubeX
« Reply #126 on: December 20, 2016, 12:31:43 pm »
Now available chip reseter for CubePro and CubeX printers, allowing to pay +10x lower prices for materials, sold in spools of 1Kg .... www.cube3dfree.com

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Re: Crap hack. Bulk filament
« Reply #127 on: December 21, 2016, 07:38:32 pm »

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Re: Crap hack. Bulk filament
« Reply #128 on: February 11, 2017, 11:42:56 am »
Hello i am a french teacher in electronic

I bought a card for my cubepro duo

The card dosn't work !!!

It is a shame and the seller said that i don't know how to use it

now i have a litige on paypal, don't buy this expensive sheet

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« Reply #129 on: February 11, 2017, 12:21:13 pm »
There are more than 500 modules installed worlwide working. It's very strange your interest in post fake information to afraid people. Ir's crimminal. The module you sent to my partner was tested and working 100%, no defects. The problem is you .... probably received $$$ to do this

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« Reply #130 on: February 11, 2017, 12:31:04 pm »
i am not a criminal

i just INFORM that you are a thief

CUBE3DFREE dosn't work !!! Don(t buy this expensive item

For information i a a french électronic teacher, if someone want a evidence that is not a problem

Don't trust this personn

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« Reply #131 on: February 11, 2017, 02:09:27 pm »
I have also full chips (100%) available for CubeX and CubePro .... if someone wants to refill your own cartridges, USD 20,00 each

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« Reply #132 on: February 11, 2017, 02:14:26 pm »
be careful you will pay a lot of money for something that dosn't work

This seller is liar

You should see that :
http://www.openbuilds.com/threads/cube-3-pro-hacks.8420/

http://www.print3dforum.com/showthread.php/900-Cube3-Filament-*SOFTWARE*-Hack-is-here!!!

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« Reply #133 on: February 11, 2017, 02:53:04 pm »
I have also full chips (100%) available for CubeX and CubePro .... if someone wants to refill your own cartridges, USD 20,00 each


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« Reply #134 on: February 11, 2017, 02:54:46 pm »
I have also full chips (100%) available for CubeX and CubePro .... if someone wants to refill your own cartridges, USD 20,00 each